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Schweppe Mansion
Mayflower Road
Lake Forest, Il 60045

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This English Tudor mansion was purchased as a wedding gift for Laura Shedd and Charles Schweppe, the mansion has 20 bedrooms and 18 bathrooms.

When Laura Schweppe died in 1937 at the age of 58 she had a fortune of over $10 million dollars of which only $200k was left to her husband the rest went to her children. With Charles disappointment in this and him being 60 years old, he started to have trouble sleeping and his mental health started to deteriorate. In 1941 his servants found him dead in bed with a gun shot to the head, a note with "I`ve been awake all night. It`s terrible" was found on the dresser.

The mansion was then unoccupied for 46 years after his death. During this time there were rumors that the ghost of the family`s servant haunted the mansion`s hallways and kitchen area, while the ghosts of the owners haunt the bedrooms. It was said that one of the windows of the master bedroom never needed to be cleaned, while all the others collected dust over the years. After the 46 years of being abandoned the mansion was then purchased by a couple for over $5 million.

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	Like Dislike Comment# 6291 10/22/2007 8:22:00 PM Edit Reply
AnonymousVisiter R -	I live really close to Schweppe mansion... ...Scary. 0_o
76.224.112.251	I live really close to Schweppe mansion... ...Scary. 0_o

	Like Dislike Comment# 66978 ReplyTo# 6291 2/14/2011 8:59:00 PM Edit
AnonymousVisiter	i have been in this house hundreds of times. its something else.
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	Like Dislike Comment# 23260 11/12/2008 8:26:00 PM Edit Reply
AnonymousVisiter M US	My family owns this house - they have for over 20 years It is haunted and cursed. All that have lived there have had terrible tragedies and terrible lives. I was lucky to escape This house has destroyed the life of the woman that lives here - it has possessed her soul. This house should be on a documentary. I refuse to ever ever go there
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	Like Dislike Comment# 48751 ReplyTo# 23260 2/22/2010 6:02:00 PM Edit
AnonymousVisiter ** US	I love all the history and i may write a book about the schweppe mansion. I know almost every little detail aboutthe schweppe mansion.
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	Like Dislike Comment# 49595 ReplyTo# 23260 3/16/2010 5:12:00 AM Edit
AnonymousVisiter ** US	Hello - Does your family truly still own this house. If so, I would very much like to talk to you. I am an historian and am very interested in older homes and their history. Please contact me at Loreleed@yahoo.com. I look forward to hearing from you.
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	Like Dislike Comment# 73416 ReplyTo# 23260 9/8/2011 9:10:00 AM Edit
AnonymousVisiter * US	hey i wanted to visit this house am sure that if we can get someone to make an investigation on the house they will do it if its ok with you i would like to visit this house email me at call-of-gears07@live.com
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	Like Dislike Comment# 75801 ReplyTo# 23260 1/7/2012 1:39:00 AM Edit
AnonymousVisiter	Whoever this is... give Jeff my # 302.729.2019 Thanks -Heather
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	Like Dislike Comment# 27275 2/13/2009 8:01:00 PM Edit Reply
AnonymousVisiter ** US	anybody know the exact address?
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	Like Dislike Comment# 54981 ReplyTo# 27275 7/23/2010 7:01:00 AM Edit
AnonymousVisiter ** US	it is 405 Mayflower Rd. it is currently for sale for 15 million to.
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	Like Dislike Comment# 28089 3/2/2009 12:38:00 PM Edit Reply
AnonymousVisiter ** -	A bunch of my friends live really close to Mayflower Road, and I'm sure I've driven down it many times. I've lived on the West side of Lake Forest for over 20 years and this is the first I've ever heard of this. Kinda makes you wonder why nobody talks about it, doesn't it? Next time I go home for break I'll try to dig up some information/find it/photograph it (if it doesn't have a long driveway, that area is heavily wooded).
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	Like Dislike Comment# 53121 ReplyTo# 28089 6/14/2010 10:53:00 AM Edit
AnonymousVisiter ILLINOIS US	Driveway is about 1/4 mile long. There are other houses on the property, so go there with a reason not because your nosey.
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	Like Dislike Comment# 28708 3/13/2009 4:18:00 PM Edit Reply
AnonymousVisiter S -	Any secret society or occult happenings around any of this.
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	Like Dislike Comment# 28999 3/17/2009 3:23:00 PM Edit Reply
AnonymousVisiter V -	When I was once a teenager many moons ago, eager to explore and willing to risk a little trouble, I and some close friends learned about this mansion and visited it clandestinely many times. I know it well. Today the estate property is subdivided and now contains several new houses, but when we went exploring, it was only the mansion and the coach house which was occupied by a grounds keeper. The Schweppe family kept up the grounds, just not the house. I have just discovered this house on the Internet. I never thought to look until now. Stories of an always-clean window and hauntings aside, the descriptions I have read are all accurate. One aspect of the house, which is missing from all accounts I have read so far is the swimming pool and the grass tennis courts. You can see these right next to each other clearly on Google Earth. The swimming pool looks as though it belongs to a knew house on the grounds, as it is right next to it. Perhaps it does today, but if you look closely from GE you can easily tell that the pool is at the end of a long mall extending on the top of the bluff. The pool is spectacular, and let me tell you nobody could have ever hopped a cooler pool. First of all it is just plain big. You can see this from GE. But in addition, it is Great-Gatsby stately. It has a marble staircase flowing into it that is easily seen from GE if you are looking for it. Two bath houses, and most intriguing of all, a "natural" diving platform. This diving platform can only be experienced. Instead of a high dive- it was high dive high-- there was a forested hill. From the pool level on the north side, there was a path into the woods that wound its way up through the woods which contained an artificial creek fountain that wound down into the pool. At the top of the path was a diving platform-- no board. These woods can be seen from GE. They are what separate the pool from the giant new house next to it. Knowing what I know about this layout of the pool, it is easy for me to believe that it is not associated at all with this new house; these woods and hill provide a natural barrier to that property. My guess would be it is still part of the original mansion and its grounds. The pool was maintained perfectly! When you are a teenager, this was simply as awesome as it gets. It was teenage pool hopper's dream :) As for the house itself, I am going to keep my memories close. Before this house was restored, suffice to say, a movie set would have a hard time competing.
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	Like Dislike Comment# 29043 3/18/2009 1:45:00 PM Edit Reply
AnonymousVisiter V -	Is this mansion still there??? Are you saying it's torn down...
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	Like Dislike Comment# 31537 4/29/2009 5:45:00 PM Edit Reply
AnonymousVisiter M US	the address is 405 mayflower rd lake forest,il in it is still there it's up for sale for 18 million dollars
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	Like Dislike Comment# 32126 5/12/2009 2:45:00 AM Edit Reply
AnonymousVisiter M US	I had a close buddy of mine i new in the late 90s who grew up in western lake forest and we worked doing cable tv in that town on occasion. He would tell endless stories about his time growing up there.He actually lived on the property for a short while in the early 80s. Most of what you hear is true about this mansion, but he had some great stories of his own he would tell. The house was approachable as of the early 2000s when we did cable up there. It was an eary place even in the brightest, sunshiny mid day! You could drive right up the driveway to the front of the house. The grounds were so well kept but you never saw anybody around. Ya kinda felt like someone was watching you the whole time so we never stayed long. Like to get back someday
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	Like Dislike Comment# 32937 5/24/2009 11:56:00 AM Edit Reply
AnonymousVisiter ** US	Yes the house is STILL there at 405 N May Flower Rd is the addres. go to the front gate and go to the very last house on ur rt.theres other houses there with people living. Feels weird and scary when u arrive some ligths at da 1st floor on ur left will be on. Pay attention to the windows....
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	Like Dislike Comment# 33242 5/29/2009 10:55:00 AM Edit Reply
AnonymousVisiter ** -	hey we are going to chicago in a couple of weeks, for a wedding. we already booked for fri. night. i was wondering if anyone knows of a haunted place (hotel or b&b) we could stay at on sat?
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	Like Dislike Comment# 34690 6/26/2009 9:57:00 AM Edit Reply
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	Like Dislike Comment# 37000 8/1/2009 9:20:00 PM Edit Reply
AnonymousVisiter ** US	we would like to ask permission in coming in and investigatin this mansion we are equiped and would love to investigate we are 5 to 6 teens 13- 16 yrs of age an if theres a possibility then please contact me at jackelineceja@hotmail.com
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	Like Dislike Comment# 38521 8/25/2009 5:41:00 PM Edit Reply
AnonymousVisiter ** US	A friend of mine who grew up in Lake Forest ventured into the Schweppe residence while it was abandoned, before it was purchased in the 1980s. I was not a believer in "ghost photos" until she showed me the pictures she had taken. Note, the photos were taken in the days before digital cameras, and could not possibly have been altered by the teenager my friend was back then. The photos showed an outline of a ghastly human face in a wood panel, a misty-looking entity in a bedroom, and yes, there was that window. My friend is logical and rational, and after that visit to the Schweppe mansion, she became a real believer in haunted houses.
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	Like Dislike Comment# 39047 9/4/2009 11:51:00 AM Edit Reply
AnonymousVisiter	i know someone who is friends with, it is a great big clump of money , and nothing else. it is a story now about how people believe that furnishings make you better, they don't. this story is a great example of gross endulgence. who cares if it looks like a furniture store? maybe , they can place a 'going out of ' sign in the window. i think it is sad, the whole story, then and now. The only thing spooky is the way people get caught up in others lives.
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	Like Dislike Comment# 39091 9/5/2009 5:20:00 PM Edit Reply
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	Like Dislike Comment# 44575 11/16/2009 10:26:00 AM Edit Reply
AnonymousVisiter ** US	The story of this house is sad. Suicides, divorces, and people trapped in their bodies, just ask Mrs. Denton poor thing. The kitchen is about the only thing that really needs changed, it’s trapped in the 80's. It’s almost like Dunnellen hall, aka the Leona Helmsly mansion. Google them and you will see. Dunnellen is undergoing a free fall in price $125 million to $95 to 75, and now it’s at $60 million with no buyers. Google the Whitemarsh Hall mansion, watch it on YouTube. The grounds and the ruins are said to be haunted. Made of a mix of marbles, stone, concrete, and limestone, it was over 100,000 sq feet, and over 1.5 million cubic feet of air to heat and cool. An imposing example of Palladian architecture, perhaps the best one that has ever been built in the united states. It has a smaller sister mansion, Lynnwood, its also known to be haunted. The Crocker mansion in NJ at 45,000 sq feet on 3 stories is one beautiful mansion, its wood work some of the best ever crafted in america, by some of the worlds finest master woodworkers. Though with its brick and limestone facades it looks like a highschool or college. You can find it on google too. It’s haunted but recently was bought for 8.8 million. It was once priced around 30 million. Dunnellen hall is grossly overpriced by at least a factor of 2 if not 3. The Shweppe estate is about twice the price it listed for in 1992. 1994-2007 was one big bubble, so i think the prices of these mansions will come down to better reflect their market values. Currently 405 mayflower in Lake Forest is listed at $15 million, down from a high of $18 Mil. In 1992 it was listed at $8 million. The Denton estate is in shambles; she was a victim of fraud and lost millions. She lost in court to mr webster that bastard. Now the house and estate are controlled by a cult of lawyers, and she owes millions in taxes. It was bought in 87'ish for between 3-5 million, it was renovated and from all accounts it is in pretty good shape. There is one area of plaster damage in the curved vaulted ceiling of the upstairs hall but that was a few years ago I’m not sure if it’s still damaged. In Carmel indiana they had the beautiful English/French Tudor country home, the 20,000 sq ft Perez house and though built in 1990 it was said to be haunted. It took forever to be sold and when no one could be found to move in they demolished it. It was only 17 years old. The Hilbert mansion located at 1143 west 116th street in carmel will be another modern haunted mansion if its not sold soon. It’s the 2nd largest residence in indiana, (24,500-25,000 sqft) its an amazing interpretation of a french cheateau in a country estate on about 40 acres. It’s a bargain for 9.9 million, once priced at 25million it has 30,000 sq ft of additional and beautiful buildings. The simon mansion at 10110 ditch road in carmel will become another haunted mansion. Mr simon recently died, you might have heard of the simon mall group which owns a hell of a lot of malls in the USA, Or maybe Porkeys the movie? That’s all him. It is the largest home in indiana, almost 42,000 sq ft, plus a very large guest house. It has its own huge golf course; the estate is on about 100 acres. Playing golf with poltergeist! They don’t make them like this anymore. In elkhart indiana they have the Ruthemere mansion from the early 1900s, beaux arts style, very beautiful. It is said you can hear the cries of a baby. Down the road from that mansion due west on beardsley is the Mansion built in 1941 with french and english cues, its about 8,000 sq ft and though beautiful it is built over the same spot of a large mansion owned by the Davenports built in the 1850's Erskine manor, home to Albert Erskine the CEO of studabaker is at 1207 erskine manor hill road, in south bend off of Miami street. It’s currently for sale at 749k, Its a little smaller at 8400 sq feet and a 4000 sq ft finished basement (12.4K sqft), it needs some restoration, and remodeling/renovation, but a bargain if your into haunted historical homes. To own any of these homes requires the owners to be rich. The furniture and collections necessary to fill such large spaces would be no small undertaking. The scale of any repair, restoration or remodel job would be quite a feat. The taxes and upkeep of theses homes and grounds, and to heat and cool them range from tens of thousands of dollars to hundreds of thousands of dollars per year. Burnt Offerings, that is what these mansions are, it sucks the life force out of you. Watch the movie, or read the book.
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	Like Dislike Comment# 45515 ReplyTo# 44575 12/10/2009 10:05:00 AM Edit
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	Like Dislike Comment# 45201 11/30/2009 7:38:00 AM Edit Reply
AnonymousVisiter ** US	My friend's mom is the owner of the house. I was just there last Wednesday 11/25/2009, and I lost my wallet while visiting the house. Not sure if its just a hoax or if I left it at the grocery store but........ still freaky. I've only been in 20-25% of the house. It's was too scary way too dark (even during the day) The house is still there along with the other 3-4 houses built on the property.
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	Like Dislike Comment# 45513 ReplyTo# 45201 12/10/2009 10:03:00 AM Edit
AnonymousVisiter	Are you serious? No one took your wallet! You lost it and no nothing about this house...
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	Like Dislike Comment# 45514 12/10/2009 10:04:00 AM Edit Reply
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	Like Dislike Comment# 45690 12/15/2009 11:22:00 AM Edit Reply
AnonymousVisiter ILLINOIS US	Yes I lost it..... there was only 3 of us in the house. Sure I probably ended up losing it at the grocery store, but the particular chair i was sitting in "steals stuff". I later went back to the house and we destroyed the chair looking for my wallet, and no such luck. as far as the house goes........ its just way too creepy. I can go there and visit anytime I want, but would be even creepier if i just started taking photo's for these forums.......
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	Like Dislike Comment# 53120 ReplyTo# 45690 6/14/2010 10:47:00 AM Edit
AnonymousVisiter ILLINOIS US	I was there last night, AND I finally got my wallet back.... Weird My friend said it was just laying there on the floor next to the chair that we all tore the F out of (5 months later). I highly doubt they will be doing tours anytime soon, so put that to rest.
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	Like Dislike Comment# 46528 1/11/2010 2:59:00 AM Edit Reply
AnonymousVisiter	Without telling us her name (privacy) what do you guys mean : the house has destroyed the life of the woman who currently lives in it ? And to the guy who's family owns it : why is it such a bad place, can u be more specific ? it looks like a beautiful house to me
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	Like Dislike Comment# 46693 1/14/2010 10:50:00 PM Edit Reply
AnonymousVisiter INDIANA US	Your question has already been answered!! Please read and comprehend what i have posted. Her name btw is Denton,she was cheated out of millions, was divorced soon after the purchase of this home... and on and on... If you are in Ref. to the original owner, again all pertinent info is contained within these few articles. Happy reading. Comment# 44575 11/16/2009 10:26:00 AM
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	Like Dislike Comment# 47525 1/30/2010 12:29:00 AM Edit Reply
AnonymousVisiter	thats it I am going!!!!
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	Like Dislike Comment# 49023 2/28/2010 10:59:00 AM Edit Reply
AnonymousVisiter ** US	Are there any tours of the house available?
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	Karma [Neutral] Like Dislike Comment# 49024 2/28/2010 12:27:00 PM Edit Reply
rashore Last Seen: 8/2/2010 9:22:00 AM	I think the place might still be up for sale at 15 million, at least it's still listed on the realtors site- http://www.houdachedid.com/ ML#: 07068372 You might be able to set up a real estate tour with her. I'm gonna bet an overnight hunting tour would be out of the question, lol.

	Like Dislike Comment# 50203 4/3/2010 6:51:00 PM Edit Reply
AnonymousVisiter	My friends and I would also like to visit the place for an investigation. We are all 17 years of age and older. I want to visit the place because it is one of my dreams to become a Paranormal Investigator. Please let me know if this is possible. Please contact me at Baritone47839@yahoo.com Thank-You!!
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	Like Dislike Comment# 50939 4/20/2010 11:02:00 PM Edit Reply
AnonymousVisiter VIRGINIA US	I have stayed as a guest in the house when H. Hoeper owned the house and have been in about 30% of the main house. The first floor, and some of the second floor. The estate at that time about 1989-91 was fully gated and around 10 acres. Has a large carrage house which had not been restored at that time and was used for storage. also just behind the coach house was a very large green house. The swimming pool is the most amazing I have ever seen, and blended into the woods on the property perfect. The rock cliff diving board is fantastic. The whole East side of the property overlooks Lake Michigan on a large bluff. The his and hers bath houses were restored in gleeming tile work. North of the pool had a nice walking path down to the lake. I was told about the lore of the strange beliefs that Charles Schweppe (original owner who killed himself in the library as I was told) had. I was told that he was a very firm beliver in reincarnation. I was also told that for many years meals were still served in the dining room, and the home was heated for all 46 years it had stood unoccupied. Also I was told there was an accident in the elevator in which a young servant girl had died. Many people I know always felt the house to be a very cold creepy house, but I never felt anything strange. Just a big and impressive home from a bygone era. On the brighter side of history the Duke an Dutchess of Windsor did dance in the ball room and stayed as a guest of the Schweppes. (Charles Schweppe and Laura Shedd) Laura Shedd is the daughter of John G. Shedd as in Shedd Aquarium Chicago. Also the interior layout of the home was changed after Mr. Hoeper bought it with his wife Donna. The original layout was 20 bedrooms and 18 baths. The home was reconfigured to 10 bedrooms and 14 baths. The property also has past before it was the schweppe property, it was the Blair Lodge, and before that was the Lake Forest Hotel. Which burned to the ground.
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	Like Dislike Comment# 52954 6/9/2010 10:22:00 AM Edit Reply
AnonymousVisiter	Maybe its haunted because the owner was murdered and the lies told to cover up the murder are beginning to unravel.
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	Like Dislike Comment# 55370 ReplyTo# 52954 7/26/2010 7:54:00 AM Edit
AnonymousVisiter ** US	I agree nobody leaves a riddle as a suicide note. Its as if someone had him write that "note" a head of time. I think he was murdered.
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	Like Dislike Comment# 58562 9/24/2010 1:48:00 PM Edit Reply
AnonymousVisiter ** US	My Father, and Grandfather both worked in the house for the Hoeper's before, during, and after the renovation. They were/are a great family and their youngest chirldren wre my age at the time. I recall that place being odd as a 8-10 year old, something just wasent right. It is a breathtaking pice of property and an awesome house. Its too bad that Mr. and Mrs had a falling out, My father continued to work for the Mrs. after the divorce but in the end was let go. I have alot of great memories of the hous, playing around in it, nintendo on the big screen ( it was 1989 ) swimming in that pool, and general mischife. Kinda crapy to go home to our little house after spending the day living like " the other half".
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	Like Dislike Comment# 62026 11/2/2010 10:52:00 PM Edit Reply
AnonymousVisiter ** US	Are you talking about the Merrill Lynch court case that she went thru? And what a skum bucket Charles Webster was?
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	Like Dislike Comment# 62114 11/4/2010 8:41:00 AM Edit Reply
AnonymousVisiter ILLINOIS US	Yep, the Hemsleys house in Connecticut sold... The Schweppe mansion has not sold yet... Asking price is now down for 14 mil.. Amusingly, that makes the place $666 per square foot :)
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	Like Dislike Comment# 64288 12/19/2010 11:13:00 AM Edit Reply
AnonymousVisiter ** UY	i also used to skinny dip there in the 60s
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	Like Dislike Comment# 68899 3/30/2011 8:46:00 AM Edit Reply
AnonymousVisiter	so who haunts this?
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	Like Dislike Comment# 72526 7/23/2011 10:34:00 AM Edit Reply
AnonymousVisiter * US	I know everything about this house. It belongs to my family. And I book must be written - the stories are remarkable.
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	Like Dislike Comment# 75799 ReplyTo# 72526 1/6/2012 10:54:00 PM Edit
AnonymousVisiter	Jeff do you still have the Indian statue in your bedroom? I will help you write about about it. I know what happened to your mom. I saw it too.
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	Like Dislike Comment# 75800 ReplyTo# 72526 1/7/2012 1:34:00 AM Edit
AnonymousVisiter	Hoeper, how do i get a hold of you? It's Heather from LF -If you check this call me. If you're Hoeper's friend give him my # 302.729.2019
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	Like Dislike Comment# 75232 12/5/2011 5:47:00 PM Edit Reply
AnonymousVisiter * US	do you allow over night inestigations? if so how do i contact you?
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