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Chino Hills
2943 English Road
Chino Hills, CA 91709

County: San Bernardino County
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Story is a man who escaped prison stalked a family killing the mother, father and sister and the sons friend. The 8 year old son had his throat slit, was hit in the head with a hatchet, stabbed in the back and left to die, but he is the sole survivor. They say if you go to the house you will see blood prints and the ghosts of the family. July 2005 Update: recently the sole survivor made a statement recounting the murder. You can read it here http://lang.dailybulletin.com/projects/cooperwatch/news/042305_joshua_statement.asp


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               Like      Dislike        Comment# 2750     3/12/2007 12:00:00 AM     Edit       Reply    

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Locally this place is known as the "Murder House" and is frequently checked out by local kids. The house is still up but blocked off and boarded up. A place of more interest is a field on the way there that is known to have an eerie green fog. My sister and her friends did check it out, she reported the fog to me but was chased out by some "skinheads" as she put it. Also reported have been people holding rituals. This field is located behind the Boy`s Republic near the Spectrum.

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In regards to the `green fog` comment..I grew up in Chino and everyone talked about the `Green Mist`. We`d get all psyched up to go into it, waiting for something to happen. We`d get really scared, but nothing ever happened.It really had something to do with phosphaates that were in the ground there. Unfortunately, it was near Aerojet (a missle facilty)that had crazy security guards who got off on scaring teenagers! A kid name Rusty was actually killed up there. It was deemed a hunting accident, but we always thought he was really killed by one of the guards. Better to stay away from here because of that.

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We don`t call it the "Murder House", we call it the "Cooper House" as it was Kevin Cooper who was the escaped convict. Also, he didn`t cut off the boy`s (Joshua) ears, he slit his throat. Joshua`s friend who was spending the night that night was also killed. Although the house is boarded up you can still get in, but you have to park at the bottom of the hill and walk up. The neighbors further up the hill watch and will call the police on trespassers. (I speak from experience!) Recently, the city of Chino bought the house and said they planned on making it an extention of the city`s main hospital- even though the hospital miles away. And the green mist does exist, but I`m afraid shellyn is right about the phosphaates. And the "skinheads" are in an entirely different location (Carbon Canyon)and they will shine their spotlight on you and chase you out of the Canyon!

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we went to the cooper house last night, some of our friends hade gone about a year or so ago and it was blocked but their was a hole in the gate and a broken window to get in but when we went last night we got up their and this big light turned on like a huge interigation light. also their is a sign that says you being video taped and if you go in the tapes will be turned over to the proper athorities and you will be prosicuted. also the sheriff station is only a few blocks away. also their is a house next to/below this house and their were people sitting outside.

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Update Jan 26th, 08

Address found. 2943 English Road   (on second link)


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My cuz and I checked it out today.We took pictures and compared them to the crime scene pics on the web site above.Hate to burst everyones bubble, but that is not the house.Also, I found an article about the case and it read that,"the house was about 2 miles from the prison".The house in the address above is 4.1 miles away from the prison.So in conclusion, all I can say is check it out,but pictures don't lie.Most of the time anyway?

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In reply to Bootboi, maybe you went to the wrong house? Ive been to it several times, keep in mind this was over 20 years ago that it happened and the house has not been occupied ever since.  I saw an hour long report on the murder on tv a few years ago and I think it said something about the grandmother of Josh Ryen (the survivor) owning the house. It is almost 3 miles from the prison, I saw the article saying it was 2, which is pretty much correct.  When Cooper escaped he went through the hills and fields which led him directly to the house it says, so a straighter path would have made it shorter, rather than taking streets. Plus you can look up the address and it shows what street its on, and the pics which show where it is located, but of course the roads have changed a little in the past 20 + years. Still kinda creepy up there and terrible what happend. I hate seeing these people saying free kevin too, he escaped from mulitple mental hospitals and prisons, was charged with burglary, kidnapping, rape(i think 2 counts?) attempted murder, plus the chino hills murders.. why should he ever be set free? you gotta be kidding.

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Also, correction to the address that you have as 2943 english road. The dispatch call of the police officer says "responding to 2951 English Rd." from the CBS "48 Hours" news video. So the house is located at 2951 English Rd. Chino Hills CA, 91709. If you go to google maps you use the satallite picture and compare it to the picture on http://lang.dailybulletin.com/projects/cooperwatch/news/042305_joshua_statement.asp (just find the pic with the Ryen Home, and Hideout home) from the high view, and compare them to find the house easily if you dont know where it is. And the person above is right. If the neighbors see you tresspass they will call the cops, and the police station is about a quarter mile away down the road!


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Right on,ACK,thanks for the correction in the address.I also had taken into thought of the directions,(being that of a straight line),that is a possability.We took English pl.,which is located off English Rd. and went to the place that was boarded up.If that is the place,we compred the pics and the chimney in the crime photos goes through the roof,the house we went to chimney was built to the side of the house.Second the crime pics show a triangular entrance to the front door with an eve sticking straight out,our pics show none of the same architectual designs as the crime scene photo.We will get to the bottom of this somehow but I appreciate the info.


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Yea no prob! I did the same thing you did. I went up to that house that your talking about and thought it was the cooper house, but when I re-checked the pics, I realized it wasnt it.  I heard that boarded up house is owned by someone up there and its just used as a decoy, so no one tries to find the real house, which would make sense. But whatever it is, its not the cooper house. You have to follow the road up more past that broken down house. You go past that sign that says private property or w.e. and follow the small road and youll see it.  The only problem is it says private property, and the neighbors do not want people going up there, so its risky if you tresspass.  They will stare at you if you go anywhere near that area too.

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My cousin and I went and tried to find this house last Fri. We found it but it was torn down and a new house is on the property. The hide out house is still there and intacted. There is really nothing to see there now, horses and a dumb dog.

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House is gone.

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The first pic is a recent satellite pic of the Ryen home on the left and hideout house on the right, the second pic was taken in 1983 after the incident. Hopefully this time the pics work!


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Thanks again ACK,yea as BOCCE33 pointed out it was a dissappointment,but at least we now know.We compared the same two photos and realized it was occupied now.Keep us posted if you have any other good ones ACK.By the way the abandoned church in Walnut is no good either,it is occupied as well now.

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House was torn down after the City bought it, I believe...but the place where Kevin Cooper supposedly hid should still be up. haven't heard anything about the Cooper case after he went on another appeal, anyone hear anything new?

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i really want to go

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I heard that thier is big fines for going now from the chino hills sheriffs. Those guys are dicks too I dont think that thier joking around when they say it. I lived in chino hills for 17 yrs and I never got to go to the cooper house. I really want to go to see for myself. I used to live down the street from the house probably like 10 min walking distance lol and I never whent, what a waste. Im hopeing to go preety soon.

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By the way do any of you guys know exactly what side the green mist is on? is it on the field towards the fire station off of eucalyptus? or is it on the other side on the field towards grand and the off ramp of the 71 fwy where the community park used to be?

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Yeah, the cops and neighbors do not like people going up there, and the Green Mist is nowhere near there. It is in, and around the hills of Aerojet. Located: Woodview road, and the end of Peyton Ave. Theres a small road which leads down to Heaven's Ranch, and the gated road that keeps going leads to Aerojet... I posted some info on Aerojet in Chino Hills if your interested. You can  get in trouble over there too if your tressassing : )


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Wow,now we know how urban legends are passed on.and the many different stories that can be told.I am not trying to say that the 1983 ryen murders are a myth, but the accounts of events and location of actual home has many people confused.I can personally tell u that when Kevin Cooper commited these crimes in 1983 i was in 3rd grade and one scared little girl.I did not live near the home in chino hills but i was only 2 miles from the Chino prison in the city of chino and that was close enough for me.Hearing the stories of what actually happened in that house,how Joshua Ryen was the only survivor,Blood and body parts splattered on walls and closet doors,how a friend of Joshua Ryen-Christopher Huges was staying over and was found by his own father the following morning along with MR.and Mrs.Ryen and their daughter Jessica -Stabbed to death while Joshua 8 years old watched barely clinging on to life.And like everyone i also had to see the house-when i turned 16 years old i went with some friends who lived in chino hills and who knew far too much.When i did see the home it was not what i pictured,the private road which was suppose to be lined with trees up to the house was not there.the big glass windows were not there the decpiption of the home in photos were completely difeerent.All i saw was a shack style home and the home was being occupied by a man driving an old white van.I couldn't believe someone could live there and why not like in the Manson murders was'nt the home destroyed.Later on after meeting my husband who was 20 years old in 1983 and has been there done that when it came to all the stories that surrounded The green mist, Aero jet, The Pig man,sleepyhollow,the hill of hope compound with armed guards,the silos behind Boys Republic,the mafia hit on a porn king outside his private gate in the canyon,the haunted brick yard,the swamps behind the Dam etc...etc...bottom line is the residents of english Road are not about to let u see anything,they are very protective of the property and all sorroundings.I also saw a documentary on the case a few years ago and compared to pictures of crime scene nothing matched up.even after years i still have never seen what was decribed or seen in pictures.I guess we'll never know.i guess u can call it one of the best kept secrets in chino hills.

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Yea it was a terrible thing that happend and I know what you mean about the house.. But everyone goes to the wrong one. They think that little shack-like house is it, just becuase it says no tresspassing and stuff. Its a decoy house just for that reason and it works perfect. There house is ALL THE WAY at the end of  the road. and it feels weird going there becuase everyone stares at you and its like your driving on someones driveway. Dont be fooled by that messed up house on English pl. because that is not the house... look at the pics, then go all the way to the end of the street.. and you will see the real house... And i mean EVERYONE that ive ever heard of going there, goes to the wrong house.... The top of the hill is not the end of the road, you keep going to the end. if you cant figure it out go to google maps, you can see the house at the end of the road! That little worn down shack house is kinda creepy.. but is only used as a decoy by the residents, becuase yea they are really protective of the property up there. ALSO, from that last comment.. about the mafia hit on the porn king outside the private gate in the canyon, was not a mafia hit. My friends dad, knew the man that was killed, he was going up there when he shouldnt have, tresspassing, and they shot him down. The people that lived there were running drugs and illegal prostitution he told me, but it wasnt a "mafia hit", just a shooting by the "mafia" because he was tresspassing on their property, but yes he was shot right on that private road by the gate. I forgot about that one too, pretty crazy. Anyone know what that place is in the canyon with the guard shack and dirt road? it's near the liquor store in the canyon and on the border of chino hills. I always go by there and see the guards. My sisters friend once road a horse back there and they told her to leave. Maybe its some polygamist cult place lol.. anyone know whats back there? I looked on google maps and saw a few buildings so im curious.

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The house is still there as shown in Aerocrewkids picture. You can see it on the aerial view of google maps. The full story is here from a local paper:


On google maps

The Ryens are the family of four, along with a neighbor boy, who were murdered, by Kevin Cooper, June 4, 1983. He hacked and stabbed 2 adults and three kids with a hatchet, knife and ice pick, stabbing and slashing most of the victims 20 to 50 times each. One boy, Josh Ryen, was hit in the head with a hatchet, had his throat slit and was stabbed in the back mutliple times, but survived, holding his throat closed with his hand, for over 11 hours, lying in pools of his families blood, until someone found them the next day. He and the murderer are the only survivors.

If you want to go there, it is well guarded by the sheriff and the locals. The police will be on you soon after you turn onto English place, because the neighbors will call them.
They are very protective and there are many motion detector lights all around the area. The house and the murderers hideout are still there and still in well cared for condition.

You can go up English Place, but where the road forks, half way up, you would have to go to the right to get to the actual Ryen House.

If you go straight, you will see a boarded up house on the left, at a dirt cul-de-sac. That is NOT the house. Going stright ahead from here, will take you up to the house next door to the Ryen murder house, where Cooper hid out before and after the murders. It is right next door to the Ryen/Cooper murder home. But, if you are here, you have already missed the turn to the Ryen home. It is also occupied and I'm certain the owners will not want you poking around in their yard.

Go back to the y in the road, the right hand branch, coming into English Pl, is the road to the Ryen home. It has palms and fences along it and goes uphill to the Ryens driveway as you can see on the google map. But I don't recomend you go, it is very private.

My wife and I are very spiritual, and can feel energy from places like this very well. We went there last night, June 7th, 25 years and 3 days after the murders, but we did not go onto their property. We could feel the energy from almost 1/2 mile away. So we went around to Eucalyptus Ave off of Peyton Drive and went west past the new park on the right. We turned right at Galloping Hills Road. If you follow that up to the last house on the right, you will find a small park with a gravel path going back behind the houses. Follow the path and then go straight up the hill and you will see a tree line and wire fence. The house is right there, next to several horse stables. We did not, and would never enter the property, and I recomend you don't either, but you can see the house from there.

My wife used her spirituallity to ask the worlds strongest guides and spirits to enter the house and speak to the family, whos spirits still are hanging there. We were standing behind the fence, looking towards the house, talking to the guides and spirits, and she felt and saw the family being guided on from this world, helped to let go of their pain and horror. As it happened, right at sunset, a strong wind kicked up from the west and blew through the trees and property, cleansing the area of the dark, ugly energy of the killer and thesadness of the family. Afterwards, the energy felt much clearer.

So, yes, the house is still there, very clean and well cared for, there are horses in the corral, a gold dog out in the west yard, a large rv for security parked in back at the fence and a huge security light in the front yard. Someone is caring for the house and keeping up the lawn and gardens. So, go if you must, but please respect the memory of the family who lived there. They and their one surviving son, deserve it.


Jim and Carol

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so, does somebody actually live in the house? I found the small park and the gravel trail, i just didnt go down it yet but i will.

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The "park" you refer to, is that the "equestrian place"??

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If you open the google maps link and turn on the satellite images, then pan straight south you will see the house on the very end of English place. Kevin Coopers "hideout house" is just to the right of it. On the south side of the house is an open hillside and south of that is Galloping Hills Drive. There is a small black trail that leads to a round gravel turnaround just south of the house. You can see it on the map. Look for the baseball fields  just to the left.

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Jim and Carol, your story gave me chills. I am not sensitive to to spirits but i am a true believer. Today foolish me drove up that road to see that house- but when i got as close as the boarded home on the left i started to panic and turned back down the hill.Now this might sound odd; but i felt like my car had been pushed. (and not because i was traveling down)------now i'm freaked.

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There is definitely some bad energy still clinging there. I think until Kevin Cooper is gone, there will be some bad, ugly things hanging around that area.

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I agree. Do you have any more info on scary stuff in chino or chino hills? An

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have you heard of galester park in west covina

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I was born and raised in Chino and I clearly remember being 10 years old and we had just come back from the river. The Sunday morning Progress Bulletin (at the time) was on our porch and it had the headline splashed across the front "Chino Hills Family Slain". That was, without a doubt, one of the scariest times of my life. We lived in fear that Kevin Cooper was going to come kill us too. In fact, the night he was finally captured, my friends and I were having a backyard campout telling Kevin Cooper ghost stories and my friends mother ran out of the house screaming that he was caught. Years later, as a teenager, the curiosity got the best of my friends and I as well. So we rode up English Place, just as everyone else did. Excited, yet scared to death for some reason, my friend pulled into the driveway. WOW....that was the creepiest experience I've ever had. It's like you could feel all this bizarre energy. I'm sure it was the time of year ( December 1989) but the fog just seemed to cloud the home in such an eerie fashion. I was numb. I guess being that I lived through the news and newspapers and seen and heard all the morbid details of these murders, you have to almost get closure. Because as cheesy as it sounds, our community suffered the trauma as well. All we can do is pray for families survivors and hope that justice does the rest......Jackie, Chino, CA

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The lookout house is the one on the far right, the original house is still there, just like in the original newspaper pictures. The info about it being bulldozed is incorrect. Feel free to believe whatever you want.

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Yep, the exact original house is still there.

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It's not a matter of believing anything, it's a matter of I was standing outside the house 48 hrs ago. Maybe the house was not bulldozed but there was atleast $400,000 in upgrades done including a second story added which categorizes it as a new house.

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The house is demolished!!! So what ever you felt there was NOT from the original house!!! It was a red brick house it is no longer there!!!NOT ONE BRICK! So you better do some tuning in on your pshycic ablitlys because anyone who truly knows what is up with that house knows your out of your mind!!!!! Its a nice new house thuogh isnt it? (I didnt know they even had some of those upgrades in the 80's if you really think thats the same house do some research I dont have to I live here!)

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The house is still there. heres a pic of it.. http://lang.dailybulletin.com/socal/gallery/?folder=news/020704_Cooper MSNBC did an hour long special on the murders to a few years back, if you look online you can see a few short clips from it. the house was owned by the 90 some year old grandmother of Josh Ryen (the survivor) and this was a few years ago. So its either still owned by her or someone else lives there now but its still there. And its not a brick house by the way.

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oops my bad: I meant CBS News: 48 Hours - Kevin Cooper. Only have a few short clips of the show but it shows the house if you still think its not there for some reason

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haha, yea i've lived in chino hills for 20 years, and I've been up there about 6 times to the house. And google maps is updated as of 1 year ago. The house is still the same. It has been changed if you payed attention to what I said. It was remodeled on the INSIDE: new flooring, walls, everything remodeled. The outside is the Exact same though. I dont think the family has unlimited money... It costs a lot to remodel and why change the outside? The inside was all that mattered.  I've been up there many times and its the exact same as the pictures from the murder scene! The house was owend by the grandmother up until a few years ago, because she said so in the interview.. If shes still alive i dont even know she was 90.  So yea, the same house is still there, it looks the exact same from the outside..take the pics with you from http://lang.dailybulletin.com/projects/cooperwatch/case_overview/ this website so you can actually see for yourself. I just dont want everyone out there to be fooled by what your saying, They should be aware of the truth.. Thats all, you dont have to get mad. How bout this, go take pics of the house and post em here so everyone can see for themselves.

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One of these weekdays, all of us meet at the park and go check it out. I have ways to appear like we belong and are working.

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Bocce33 here, let's just plan or I have recent, 6 months ago pict. of both of the house. I'll post soon. Bootboi and I went up there and could not confirm for sure.

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bocce33 cool cant wait to see!

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Dude, post those pics! I can't wait to see them, I've only been there from the backside (horse trail)so everything looks different.

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I would love to see your pictures,  please post them!


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Pretty good view of the front of the house from right down in the park.  By far the most nostalgic site in the I.E.



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That is where we took the pics from, the horse trail or back of the house or chain link fence line. The hideout house is the same we believe because of the deck or patio on the back of house. The murder house, you really can't get a good shot of it at all unless you had a camera with a pretty good lens on it to zoom in from the bottom where the horses are. I'll still post them when I get them today.

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How do I attach the pics any one?? It won't let me copy and paste. Have about 5.

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try using photobucket or something like that

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BOCCE33- You can add pictures a few ways. Do you have them saved on your computer? If so, you can click on the "Upload Image to This Location"  link and go that route. That link is located in the black side margin in the listing up above... It's right above the google map.

You can't copy and paste your photos, but you can post your pictures in your comment by using HTML if you already have them uploaded to the internet. If you have any other questions or need additional help, let me know. :-)


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Can you see them, not the greatest but they are what we all are questing for.

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Your pictures aren't bad, thanks for posting them.  Nothing real definative from the front though.  I'm going to try for some good front ones to correspond to the old crime scene photos.

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You can definatly tell that that hidout house has not changed, i.e roof on nearest end. Not to sure about the cooper house. the one photo was of the chimany. we noticed in the daily bullitin photos, the style og the chim. and tried to compre it and see if the house was rebuilt. I definatle think the have added onto the house.

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I added a picture.  It shows the house from the park below, and I cut in and old picture to show comparison. Seems pretty different now.

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In the old picture you can see the sliding glass doors that Kevin Cooper broke in through which I believe was the Parents room.  In the old picturee and from the horse trail you can plainly see that the sliding glass doors have been removed.

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What this tells me is, the actual house is still standing, but atlered and remodeled. Probably removed the sliding door due to the incident. That's for the pic bap. I believe it answer some questions for sure. Have some more pics of the field in Ontario I'm posting on the site. Take a look. It is the tree.

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Yeah I'm sure that the incident was the reason for the sliding door remodel.  I have a picture of the house from the side where the doors used to be also but I couldn't post it for some reason.  I'm gonna check out your tree pic, I've always wanted to check that place out.

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come on u guys, its not that difficult to figuer out. the house ur all talking about is not the "cooper house" if u look on google maps and u go there u will see that the house is on english pl all the way on top of the hill. and its been redone and new ppl live in it. u guys all seem to forget that someone lost there family there, so its not a joke.

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Good pics! Glad someone got them up finally. Yea you can clearly see the house is still there and ALMOST the exact same. With the exception of that outside remodeling, must be fairly recent. And to the comment above, people live in the house that JonBenet Ramsey was murdered in and her body was in the basement. They just closed off the basement and the college students that rent it have no problem living there. So im sure for a nice house on nice property like that, there are many people who wouldnt mind living there even after what happend. I wouldnt, but obvioulsy people live there and it doenst bother them.  The new people that own and live in it did some remodeling inside and out thats for sure. But anyways hopefully cooper gets executed sometime soon for what he did.

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I was just reading something about how people say kevin cooper is innocent which makes me sick. They say: How could he overpower 4 people?! And they even had loaded guns in their room! ..Well killing the two adults in their sleep (cant use a gun when your sleeping or dead) and then a 9 year old boy and 11 year old girl...Gimme a break. So rediculous that there are people dumb enough to even say that.

1. A spot of blood found in the hallway of the Ryen family home matched Cooper's rare blood type.

2. The saliva matching Cooper on a hand rolled cigarette butt found inside the Ryen station wagon.

3. A bloodstain located on a tee shirt that was found beside a road some distance from the Ryen home.

4. A bloody shoeprint in the house, of the exact shoes that inmates wear at Chino Prison.

5. The hatchet sheath was found in the hidout house were Cooper admitted to be staying, the same hatchet used in the murders. Along with the missing knife and icepick from the house. (but Cooper stated he never went to the Ryen home only 400 feet away).

6. A blood-stained button from a prison-issue jacket was also in the hideout home, and telephone records showed that Cooper made two calls from the house to friends asking for help with money or transportation. But the Ryen station wagon was stolen..

The list goes on and on and on, not to mention he has escaped from several other prisons and mental insitutions. Been charged with robbery, rape, and even attempted murder on the girl that helped him hide up north in CA.  But of course he is an innocent, sane man right... And the defense has no evidence what so ever, all they say is rediculous stuff like.. "how could he kill 4 people"?  Sorry I had to let that out!! because he is guilty and the evidence supports it 100%. I know everyone agrees, but it annoys me how they have websites for "free kevin cooper"... Cant wait till his time on death row is up.


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Well considering the pics in ( http://blog.kevinneberman.com/?p=61)   are not even of the "Cooper" or former Ryen home, whoever took pictures does not know what they are talking about, or even know that the real house has been remodeled and people live in it..(see pics in top right corner of this page) The info posted above about cooper was from the actual court findings, so yes it is true information. The "blog" that has pics of the fake cooper house is incorrect... The house in those pics, is a house used for people like you, who want to go inside and snoop around all they want, and to keep people from bugging and tresspassing on the real property.  Up the "private" road,  the real Ryen home, has been partially remodeled and people currently live there. Most of the original house still stands as you can see in the pictures (in the top right corner of the page, especially picture #5)

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The Ryens house is still there. It was extensively remodeled. Very extensively. The goal was to make it look completely different. The hideout home is still there as well. The home that everyone goes to, is not related to the murders at all. Still wins on the creepy factor based on the events that took place nearby. From what I can tell, the unrelated home wasn't even built, when the murders occured. There really is nothing to see up there. The neighbors are very "protective" (and a bit whacky, though it's probably from overdosing on lookie-loo's) and the cops in the area are only a little more friendly than a pitbull with a nervous disorder. It's not worth it, to go there. The compound in Carbon Canyon is some kind of religious camp and they are weirder than the residents of Carbon Canyon, who in turn, are FAARR weirder than the folks around the Ryen home! On another note, yesterday, there was a murder/attempted suicide, in a part of Chino Hills called Los Serranos. It was the on Bird Farm near Ramona. Second house. Aerojet now has a communtiy next to it called Vellano. Multi million dollar homes with beautiful views of an abandoned, but still guarded, military dump site. Go figure...

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the copper house was never remodeled and from what i was told becaus its still a active crime seen when i went in the house i saw from my own eyes blood and all kinds of wrighting on the walls but the house is still there so i dont care what people say the no one lives in the hous

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Just wondering if you went to the copper house or the Cooper house, if you are talking about the house in which Cooper killed a family you must be referring to the Ryen house.  You might want to read through all of the posts on this thread to find out about the house that you visited, it will then become clear to you that you weren't in the house that you think you were.  Look at the pictures in the top corner of this page and you can see some pictures that tell the story.  That would be amazing preservation of a crime scene over 25 years after the crime was committed though.


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umm the boarded up house is not the cooper house retards. i worked at crossfire ranch next to the boarded up house and its actully doctor fishers house. he owns the vet office right below it and if u look at the actuall pictures of the cooper house it looks nothing like dr' fishers house. the blood on the wall is taco sauce, we caught some kid doing it some years back. the cooper house is on the other hill down english way and people live in it and they completely remodled it. retards. reseach things before u make asses out of yourselves. the people that live in the ranch next to dr fishers house will call the cops.

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dose anyone know where i can see pics of the ryen house as it looks today

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seriously guys, i've lived in chino hills since birth. it's called the cooper house and by now everybody knows that the house that's gated and boarded up with signs that state that video recording is in process is a DECOYYYY. the real house is up the road, you must trespass on private property like crazy and you will get arrested. no one has ever made it up there and you're not going to be the first. the green mist is in a slightly different location and yes, i have seen that. it's from the old aerojet facility and the security guards will go crazy on your behind up there too! the skinheads of carbon canyon are long gone but seriously, there is a cult in the canyon. you must hike approx. 10 miles behind the cement wall past the liquor store. there is a huge statue of judas with an intercom and lights. there is video there too and if you can even make it to the statue or past and see the township, a voice will come over the intercom telling you to leave and it's been times, police helicopters take no more than 2 minutes to get there. chino hills and it's suburban secrets do make a fun topic when you actually live here and have nothing better to talk about at the highschool :)

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oh &&&& the house that is in fact boarded up and all that which you can get to but the crazy neighbors will call the cops, that's just the house that kevin cooper was hiding in before he walked to the cooper's house and the murders happened....come on people. you obviously don't live here. get your stuff together

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i just wish i knew where the REAL cooper house is. i mean if you check out some of the pics that are said to be the cooper house... it doesnt really check with the original house, does it? no, not really...

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Here is a link of the properties being discussed as seen facing west towards the houses: http://lang.dailybulletin.com/socal/gallery/news/042305_cooper/7.jpg This photo shows the house in which Kevin Cooper hid out before the murders and the Ryen family home, where the 1983 Chino Hills murders took place. (File Photo) http://lang.dailybulletin.com/socal/gallery/news/042305_cooper/5.jpg This photo shows the the two Chino Hills houses involved in the 1983 murders for which Kevin is on Death Row. The murders occurred in the Ryen home. Cooper admitted to hiding out in the next door house. (File Photo)

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If you look up the 2951 English pl,Chino Hills, CA 91709 address on Google earth, you will see that it puts a marker in the middle of English place, right before the road splits. The hideout house is at the very end of English Place, the ryen house is on the other side of the split. If you move google earth to the very end of the road it is very easy to tell which is which. The ryen house is not on English Pl. It is at the very end of the road that splits off of English Place. The hideout home is the very last house on English Place. Check it out and you'll see. Compare it to the pictures that are posted in the comment above mine.

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its known as coopers house i grew up in chino and that was the hot spot for all the chino high kids ive been up there so many times the murder's name is kevin cooper its just a borded up house nothing scary

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Comment: Its interesting to see how a local tragedy like this can become a pseudo urban legend as time passes. I grew up in chino and went to the same private school as Jessie and Josh Ryen. Jessie was my age and in my class. I remember josh used to play with us kids at recess, however i never saw him again after that weekend. The house for those interested is on English Place, not English road, Someone gave an address on english road that they got off TV, You have to remember this was pre - cell phones so Mr. Hughes ran back to his house at the english road address to call for help. Thats where that came from. The Ryen house is as you come off English Rd from Peyton ave. make a left on English Place the house is at the end on the right with a long driveway. I used to go there when I was in HS every now and then with my friend Adam, he lived on English road between the Hughes house and Peyton Ave. There was really nothing to see though even back then, it was boarded up because the murder trail had just ended a couple years before. I guess we both were drawn there from our connections to the place. I went to school with the ryen kids and he lived in the neighborhood and went to Los Serranos Elem. w/ Christopher Hughes. Here's a creepy sub story though. One night were were up there sitting on the front door step to the house drinking beer and he told me that Saturday afternoon Josh and Chris came to his house to see if he could spend the night too, Adam had gotten in trouble earlier and hi mom said no. When he told me this I got the chills, He said it had bothered him since he was ten. - prayers to Josh.

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it sucks that people died there, but its a boarded up house, with fake blood, and writing all over the walls with fake blood, there is some blood that looks real but im not really sure. i went there a few days ago for the second time, its still eerie, but the beer cans and writing all over the walls kind of ruins it.

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hello i love this story omg ive been reading everyones comments... i wanna see pics and go up there and be shoed around please somebody let me n on the 411.. shhhit im a people person and im sue we would get along well.... wow how did u get lucky and go inside iwant 2 also.... omg i cnt wait 2 hear bck frm everyone on here.....im such a big fan of this story ill meet up with u guys somewhere i dnt car as long as we dnt get caught or n trouble with stuped cops.. please let me knw i would love 2 go inside and be a part of wut sum of u have..

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it is sad to know that there are people out there that actually believe in saving Kevin Cooper's life! The mountain of evidence against him is overwhelming, I believe that being a resident of Chino Hills and knowing about the case has only made it clear that the residents of chino hills are very much a part of this case and it is disgusting that actors and Rev. Jesse Jackson would try and save a convicted murder's life! how ironic is it that i live in Chino Hills and now go to school in the Bay area where Kevin Cooper is an inmate at San Quentin. Although people believe the death penalty is wrong, i believe it sometimes needs to happen ad in this case Kevin Cooper has lived long enough! it's time he gets what he deserves for every rape he committed to every single innocent murder victim's life he took. Enough of this stupid bullcrap that he doesn't deserve to die, we'll that family and that little boy didn't deserve what he did to them either. The sooner he is executed the better for Joshua Ryen and the Hughes family! God Bless them.

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ive always wanted to go up there considering i live 3 miles away from it,but i have not,but all my friends have gone up to it to tell stories,now i like ghosts but im not going to do that.considering its all boarded up and gated,but i do hear that the furniture is still there.i really have no doubt that the house is haunted because of all the horroible horrible thing that he did.me and my friend love ghosts but everytime i say lets go there tonight he doesnt want too i wonder why?

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I just happen to stumble on this blog and had to comment. I grew up in NJ and didn't move to So Cal until 2003. I had never heard of this story until a friend of mine who grew up in Chino told me about it. I ride and show horses and have been coming to this area for the last 5 years. Come to find out my horse is on the farm that is the property. I drive up English Place and make the right up the long gated drive way (just past the new vet clinic on the left). I drive all the way to the top just below the houses. Yes the "Cooper" house is still there, it is new owners and they take very good care of the farm. I make my monthly boarding payment to them. I have never experienced any weird things or strange feelings but who knows. I do see lots of activity at the house but mostly the workers going about the day to day. Just thought I would share since I am so close and see it all at least twice a week! Terrible story and my heart goes out to everyone involved. The creep should pay!

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ok so the house everyone goes to is the hideout house. the house where the family actually lived is now the hospital. which is probably why that one person mentioned the spotlights. the moment you set a foot near the actuall house, police are called. the hideout house is just a rundown little hut which is up a hill and about a mile or 2 from the house they actually died in. and they also believe kevin cooper wasnt the only murderer. because in the daughters hand they found a lock of blonde hair. while no one in the family is blonde. and kevin cooper is a black man, the police refused to go into detail and investigate the hair. and the young boy had his throat slit and his ribs broken and they had thought he was dead. no one knows how he survived but he has been trying to get the case reopened after all these years. the green mist does have people who wait up there to scare you off. we went one night and men dressed in white sheets like the kkk pulled out knives and chased us. it was scary!!! do not go to the green mist. these people are crazy and they will hurt you.

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The house the family lived in is NOT the hospital. The hospital is the new vet clinic you are referring to which is on the left before you even head through the gates. The gates which by the way the owner of the home put to keep lookiloos out. The owner of the home lives there like any normal person lives in a house, the farm is called G Bar D which he is Gary of the G. I have a bunch of pictures which I can't figure out how to load in here, but there is a run down boarded up house that is on the street that forks to the left. The actual home is on the street that forks to the right. Anyway. I go up there regularly and no one will call the cops, lets not be rediculous. They are very nice people who live there and they just don't want idiots roaming around there property. The house looks very much like it did back then just repainted and redone on the inside. If your unsure of what you are talking about please don't speculate. If I ever figure the pics out I will post them.

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........ Creapy!!!!.........

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does anyone know about pigman in heavan's ranch? its in chino hills off of peyton

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so after reading all the comments seems like the ryen house is still around i was told that the ryen house is called "the cooper house" but idk if "the cooper house" is acutually the hide out spot i've never gone but would like to go cooper should be tortured not just put to death. and if there was another killer, why wouldnt cooper say so? i mean if he is "innocent" idk but poor family, especially Josh fuuucckkkk, having been put through THAT AND on top of it all, still hearing that name and seeing that cooper STILL hasnt been punished for what he did thats just fucked up excuse the lang. but its true i mean if that was me, i wouldve presonally killed cooper while he was giving his testimony he aint innocent, c'mon there's sooo much evidence i mean can ANYONE prove he's innocent?? this guy is litearlly insane, i mean can ANYTHING that comes out his mouth be credible??

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Does anyone know if there are any books written regarding the Ryen murders?  Also, how would I be able to bring up the orginal newspaper story written in the Daily Bulletin?  Thanks for any help.  Frances

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The Real Location Of The Cooper House Was Destroyed After Everything Took Place Then They Built A House On A Different Location So That Way People Can Go To A False Location It Really Took Place About Half A Mile Away From Its Current Location.

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let get that picture then!!!!


i wanna see if your telling the truth


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The Carbon Canyon cult is a cult that has existed since at least the 60's, thats pretty intersted. I wonder what they are up to back there.


An old co worker of mine was a boy scout back in the 60s, him and his buddies hiked back there and were escorted off the property. Another friend of mine livedi n Carbon Canyon for a short while, he and his roomates came across the cult too.. it was strange, and after speaking to both of them, their stories confirmed that they happened to be at the same place.


I google mapped it thru the birds eye view , the exact way my friend described it is exactly what youll see when you get an aerial view of the place. Nutty.


My old co worker also had mentioned a Mafia Murder up in carbon canyon, dont know anything else about it.. either way its all interesting to me.. ive been interested in the supernatural and abnormal since i was a child, in my mid 20's i still go searching for local near by haunts and strange occurances.


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You're confused. The kids ear wasn't cut off. I also heard that Kevin's finger is still in the closet hehe. If you're looking for a haunt go down to English Springs Park. I always go down there and my friend's brother said one time he say a lady on the water. I've been looking for her for a while now but so far I've had no luck. There's also a memorial stone by one of the trees. That I have seen. Very fascinating!

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NO, the house was not torn down. They told us they tore it down but that was just a cover up. The owners of the property won't let them touch it.

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After much research on the locations of the murders and the fact that we live in chino hills, I can tell you for certain that the blue small boarded up abandoned house that local kids seem to believe is the hide out house is in fact just an abandoned home that has nothing to do with the murderders. When you drive up English PLACE not ROAD on the left of English road, it comes to a fork. Up on the left you will see the abandoned home you have to go past that to where the road ends into a boarding place for horses. The hideout house it at the top of this hill and is occupied by the living. The home where the poor family lived is up the fork to the right where it dead ends. Again this home too is occupied by the living as well. It is our understanding that both homes were torn down and new home built. The is nothing more to the abandoned home other than being an eyesore in a neighborhood of large homes and boarding places for horses. Sorry to dissappoint.

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I grew up in chino as well. To put to rest Green Mist is the remnants of an old military defense nuclear testing facility. There is still vacant berrics that can be seen from the road. As for the rest of the area, it is now occupied by houses and a golf country club. Growing up my friends and I would go to the Cooper house, but it is boarded up and heavily patrolled by Sheriffs and actually nothing exciting to view unless yoy enjoy being harrassed by law enforcement

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Can anyone tell me about the pig man or some of the other legends in Chino Hills? They're pretty interesting

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I went a couple of days ago.. but I didnt realise it was the decoy house that was destroyed so I simply left. I'll have to drive by just to view the actual house someday, rather than just lingering around like a weirdo, considering people actually occupy the house. also tempting because its only about 5 minutes out of my way to see it while on my way home from college.

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Why don't you leave the local residents alone and NOT go there. Do you not realize that family of the murdered still live on the street. Have some respect! The residents don't need looky loos reminding them everyday of what horrible incident happened years ago. How would you feel if strangers were strewing about your house or neighborhood all the time. The abandoned house has been leveled, it also had nothing to do at all with the Ryan murder. The old Ryan house and land is NOT haunted. I know personally, worked there for quiet some time. I understand many of you have a curiosity about the Ryans and what happened to them and the Hughes family, but PLEASE, let them be.

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Spelling correction: *Ryen Sorry

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Does anyone know where to find pictures of the crime scene?



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Last Seen: 2/7/2010 5:13:53 PM  
Well I must say that some of these posts were interesting and informative and others not so much.  I think it's ok to be interested in this case, because I know it has really captured me for some reason.  Bottom line, whether you want to see the location or discuss the details...nothing should be done without sincere reverence and respect for this family who was taken in such a devastating matter.  I'm saddened by such a horrific tragedy that nobody should ever ever have to endure.  Having a degree in Criminal Justice, I'm also interested in the nitty gritty details of the case and want to understand just how all this could have happened.  I mean Kevin Cooper should never have had a chance to harm this family in the first place.  I wonder about the level of safety and comfort that existed in this area back in 1983.  Did people leave their doors unlocked?  I am struck by the ability of some to ignore so much evidence and continue to question the guilt of Cooper.  I will admit it wasn't the perfect case and if  I was the DA, yes it's always nice to have more evidence.  For a second, let's just say that he did not commit these murders...is this someone that should be free to roam the streets living a great life?  Look at his past, my God why does it matter whether he gets executed for this crime when there are other horrendous crimes he committed.  He should have been locked up for life even before he murdered this nice family.  So much blood on the hands of bleeding heart liberals who care more about the disgusting, wretched filth that fill our prisons than the rest of us law abiding people.  As I right this currently, the state is releasing inmates early to save money (so called non-violent offenders...sure). 

Ok there I feel better.  I moved to the area recently so I guess that's sparked my interest in this thing.  I didn't grow up in the area, so I can't speak intelligently about "Green Mist" of course.  After looking at this site, the posts and some other reference materials I figured out a few things.  Someone  might have pointed this out already but anyway...I have determined the address of the Ryen house to be 2943 English Place and the Hideout house to be 2991 English Road.  This was determined using Zillow.com which is a real estate site.  You can look up properties and obtain information regarding price, sq ft, lot size, year built and all that stuff along with google type pictures.  With this site, google and the original crime photo of the two houses I was finally able to figure the locations of the houses.  Some people here made it quite confusing by the way they explained stuff.  I know there is some argument about the house being torn down and rebuilt, but what I found is that these two homes are the originals but with  the Ryen house have some rebuilding of some sort taking place.  Do the research yourself with Zillow and you can make the determination yourself.  I just wanted others to have a fighting chance with all the back and forth misinformation being thrown around.  I know it took me sometime to put it all together. 


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Dose anyone have any information on the cult in carbon canyon on Lions canyon Road???

or Saint josephs hill?


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All i know so far is my uncle works for the city( hes the guy that checks the water meter) and he went to check there water and 2 men walked up to him carrieing pistols and told him finish what he was doing and leave.

Some of my friends have also managed to get in through the back, not the main entrance on carbon canyon, but they had to hike a couple miles. Once they were in there the saw so of the people living there an outfit with a large hood over thier heads roaming the streets at around 12pm. There was also a large staue that they saw with a glass casing around it that looked to be a statue of Saint Joseph.

Its supposed to be a religiuous organization but if it is then why do they need people to gaurd it with guns???

Please is anyone has any info then comment.



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Hmm..i heard that cooper house is boarded up and there is no way of getting in there. But supposedly that isn't the real house. That the real "Cooper House" is already occupied by a family. So who knoes!!

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Last Seen: 4/28/2010 4:46:32 PM  
omg i have been wanting to go for so long but i'm so confused on how to get there or even if the house still exists.!! so please, someone tell me the truth. before i go up there like an idiot haha (:

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Yeah, it's still there. You need to take it al the way to the back road and then make a right. Be careful of people messing around with you in the dark.

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the house is gone.

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are you kidding me. for one thats just sick and two. the "cooper house' has been knocked down and is no longer there. the house people sneak into is a fake. do the research. and cooper wasnt alone. 2 blonde douche bags from the canyon coral were involved. people died a tragic death its not cute to go poke around and act like ur badass cause u stepd foot on a tragic scene. go check out the romana house. that should make u wet your pants.

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ive lived in chino hills all my life 20 years. ive heard about the cooper house but never had the guts to go up there. the blood on the walls and the ghost  or whipers and what not. im guessing what the other on here are true about the location, i have no clue. Cant get mesed with the po po again. once is enough.

The pigman in heavens ranch i have no clue maybe a hint of it in the past.

The green mist is also around heavens ranch down on peyton and the "backroad" us locals call it.

Also this came from friends about a  human size clown walking around in the revines inbetween the houses of pipeline and peyton.

Yes there is a old rundown military base out in the hills. location is unknown but from the top of the hill where townsend jr high is on peyton you can see a hangar type building on the top far distant hill. Rumors of still active landmines around there??? There are guards there, ive heard storys from friends i know. some took pics but cant really distinguish much.

Supposevly the cult is around there which would also most likly be also on the left of the new vellano houses.
the statue is new news to me but the cult isnt. last i heard they have rituals and killing animals (rabitts etc or what not) around there. Dont know about the cults in carbon canyon.

I do hear about the prostitute that lurks around carbon canyon at night. She stacks rocks on places she has done "buisness" as so ive heard.

The "mafia hit" story i know about cause of my father he use to drive through the canyon for work during the event. He said there was a drug raid or something and yeah  bad things happen up there.

Um the recent post above about the silos behind boys republic is news to me.

I have heard stuff about sleepyhollow but need a refresh on memory.

Never heard of "the hill of hope compound with armed guards" it could be the cult i mentioned, But then again there could be more then one cult here in the hills.

Also i dont think ive heard about the haunted brick yard.

And the swamps behind the Dam along the 71 freeway going south towards the 91 has always been a mystery. ive never heard storys, but in my view, once your is i thinks its gonna be another world. trust me.

I do know back from highschool that in the hills in chino hills back when alchohal was banned you knok the speakeasys and stuff. back in the past. i know that they had some speakeasys out in the hills so thats a fact.

ummmmmm i dont know if im missing anything else. chino hills has its mysterious places thats fosure.

9/10/10 - specs

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I was one of the "boy scouts" that ventured into the side canyon that is now called St. Joseph's Hill of Hope. As I recall only three of us had actually been Boy Scouts. It was a very odd night for us. No one has ever really told the story of what happened to us. I will tell it someday.

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well i went last Friday to try to find the cooper house with my brother and friend..we dident find the house but i really wanted to see it...the story is very sad...an if there was a murder in dat house then there probably are scary things there but there not ghosts most likely there demons because there was a crazy murder there...i wouldent mess with dat..ive experienced scary stuff an trust me its real!!!! you dnt belive it until you experience it and its something you dnt want to experience...its horrible but im thankful for god because hes in my life and im not scared anymore hes with me know an theres no one more powerful den God the almighty...

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Last Seen: 1/9/2011 4:45:14 AM  
well i went last Friday to try to find the cooper house with my brother and friend..we dident find the house but i really wanted to see it...the story is very sad...an if there was a murder in dat house then there probably are scary things there but there not ghosts most likely there demons because there was a crazy murder there...i wouldent mess with dat..ive experienced scary stuff an trust me its real!!!! you dnt belive it until you experience it and its something you dnt want to experience...its horrible but im thankful for god because hes in my life and im not scared anymore hes with me know an theres no one more powerful den God the almighty...

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Can anyone tell me all of their experiences with in the house. I'm working on a book about america's haunted crime scenes. This house is going to be one of the ones mentioned. All feedback will be considered.

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I once went with 20 other classmates my senior year of high school Haloween Night wrong thing to do. This was when the house was still there back in 2004. As we walked up the long hill to the cooper house we all felt uneasy of course but just as we were walking up to the house we saw an orb!! no lie! shoot in the sky over the location of the house no LIE I swear...and as we stopped to see if what the hell we saw was real someone in the group glanced to the left of where we were standing and saw a white pony right next to us when just secs before there was nothing there...It was just weird ...As for the house I did not go inside out of respect for the dead.However that experience is one i'll never forget

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I lived at 2929 English road, which was property of the family that was murders my friend's father worked for the ryens and the house that is there and boarded up isn't the real Cooper house there is a house further down the road that is occupied by a new family today Is the actual house the ryans lived in and the murders were committed so all the stories are just hyped up teenagers looking for a thrill

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Real house is at top of concrete driveway not the black driveway. When you come up to the driveways they are next to each other. Black driveway on left which leads up to fake house the one that's boarded up and concrete driveway on right that goes up the hill and curves to the left and dead ends at the real house which is. Here you occupied. Look at crime scene photos and aerial photos and compare the this house and you will see that it is the actual house. Did my investigation and research. I am 100% certain on my findings.

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I went with friends to see the Cooper house in 2002 and as we got to the boarded up shack on the left which had tons of graffitti and a creepy fence with a gate door that opened all by itself like someone was walking through it, the flood light came on they have there and i swear my friend whos been there before too and i our hairs on our arms went up. There is something very evil in the air there. It was windy out yet the trees up there didnt move. As we left I started crying uncontrollably, and  being almost 30 not much i havent seen. but the evil in the air made me so sad as my father passed away from cancer when i was 16 and i did not want to believe  that in death there was anything that evil that could be out there just the love of a beautiful heaven with god. This area and event has stayed with me all these years and i think it always will.

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The house has been torn down now.

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You all are sad! I grew up with these horrible memories of my then friends/classmates that were murdered by a man that had no care or concern for them or who they were. This family wasn't a game they were real people the kids that died were real friends that I remember playing jump rope and kick ball with. Not just some spirit or ghost.

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